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Jonathan's avatar

As someone who lives in America and is about to move to Copenhagen (with a significant reduction in salary as well as cost of living), this was an interesting read for me.

I agree with a lot of the criticisms in the comments regarding use of mean vs. median, not accounting for cost of living or US/EUR disparities, etc. There is also the question in my mind of the usefulness of a lot of our GDP (i.e. our healthcare system generates a lot of economic activity captured in GDP numbers while it spits out poor health outcomes, shorter lifespans, and crippling medical debt for citizens).

But the biggest issue for me is how to quantify the large scale human suffering and lack of dignity for the vast majority of people homeless, near homeless, living paycheck to paycheck, trying to get out from under massive educational or medical debt, threatened with random gun violence at schools and public venues, facing unregulated industrial pollution or dangerous work environments (compare auto industry jobs in U.S. south vs. Europe), etc. How do you quantify the feeling of putting your kid on a school bus and knowing there's a very small but nonzero chance that they will be the victim of a mass shooting with easily accessible assault weapons?

Many of these things are the byproduct of chasing GDP growth with zero thought to societal impacts. A discussion of America vs. Europe without accounting for those things is a good conversation starter but virtually useless for anything other than an intellectual exercise.

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Drunk Wisconsin's avatar

People often confuse personal preference to objective metrics. You might not like the McMansion suburb and strip malls, but the reality is that the small towns in the middle of flyover states in the US are filthy rich and have every amenity imaginable at reasonable prices (when compared to incomes), which is simply not the case for many places worldwide, even if those places do have the allure of a cute cafe in the old town.

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